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NH Beaver Brook

6 messages in this thread | Started on 2003-08-29

NH Beaver Brook

From: MIke Brooks (qocmike@msn.com) | Date: 2003-08-29 17:20:16 UTC
I'll admit that I didn't search the archives before my trip to find
the note from July 9 repeated below. I figured I had one free day in
southern NH, picked some titles at random, and eventually picked the
Beaver Brook clues as appearing to be a walk I would like for that
day. I was rushed before leaving and barely got the clues printed
with no time to search the archives.

It was a nice walk anyway. But the note from Beaver Brook Park was
recieved three weeks before my trip and six weeks ago total. Why are
the clues to these boxes unaltered to reflect that these boxes were
confiscated by the park staff? The boxes are on the unclaimed list. I
appreciate that the webmasters leave clues unedited, but a land
manager announced that he confiscated the boxes. I believe that's a
situation (and perhaps the only situation) where they should step in
and edit/delete clues to reflect this, especially when the placer is
not present to do it themselves. The land manager was clear that he
didn't want letterboxers off trail in those areas. There shouldn't
have been any information available that contradicted this. I realize
that our webmasters are volunteers who already have done a huge
amount for our sport, but I feel this is a case where they should
have stepped in and made the corrections, for the sake of the sport
and relations with this park (and other parks that this manager
shares info with).

I realize that I should have known better than to not check the
archives, but plenty of letterboxers aren't maillst members and do
not have access to the message archive, nor the new database, nor
know of these resources. Please consider some action on the Beaver
Brook clues. If really neccesary, I'll "adopt" them for the purpose
of posting the park's note in place of the clues.

Happy letterboxing.

Mike B.
Norfolk, VA
F72 - P3+

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "trishkri"
wrote:
> --- In LbNA-Webmasters@yahoogroups.com,
> Message:
> I am the Executive Director of Beaver Brook Association. I was
> recently alerted to the fact that your site lists two letterbox
> locations on our property. Although we are not opposed to this
> activity on our property, these particular locations were not
> approved by our organization. Unfortunately this is fastly becoming
a
> frequent problem. Our land is open to the public, but it is private
> and any use other than the usual passive recreation activities need
> to be OK'd with staff. Please alert the people who placed these
> letterboxes that they will be removed and can be picked up at our
> office. We will gleadly work with them to determine a mutually
> beneficial site.
>
> Cliff Simmonds
> Executive Director
>
> This message is sent in regards to this page:
> http://www.letterboxing.org/BoxView.asp?
> boxnum=2817&boxname=Beaver_Brook_


Re: [LbNA] NH Beaver Brook

From: (DSNFEET@aol.com) | Date: 2003-08-29 14:38:26 UTC-04:00
Hi Mike
I have spoken to the Beaver Brook director about adopting or replacing both
boxes. They are giving "time" for the owners to step forward. The locations
need to be modified for their approval. Not my boxes so I cannot modify the
clues-- A problem??
I plan to place a new box there shortly, provided the location is first
approved by the director.
Apparently a large stand of sumac was destroyed by a geocache box placement.
Searchers did not stay on trails--they bushwhacked through. Not nice!
I was in your area earlier this summer--VA Beach. I, too, came up short on my
search due to a missing box not so listed. Frustrating but --the locations
are great to see anyway.
Better luck next time.
Dancing Feet

Re: [LbNA] NH Beaver Brook

From: samanark (samanark@yahoo.com) | Date: 2003-08-29 19:01:48 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, DSNFEET@a... wrote:
> Hi Mike
> I have spoken to the Beaver Brook director about adopting or
replacing both
> boxes. They are giving "time" for the owners to step forward. The
locations
> need to be modified for their approval. Not my boxes so I cannot
modify the
> clues-- A problem??

I hope that you will adopt the boxes (after there has been time for
the original owners to come forward)
I am sick of this politically correct tippy-toeing around abandoned
letterboxes. IF a box is placed and the person has not maintained it
in a year and their email address is no longer valid, then I feel
that they have ABANDONED the letterbox!!! Let's get on with it! There
are those of us who are ACTIVE in this hobby and we would be happy to
maintain the letterboxes. If you are not an active letterboxer, then
LET IT GO.

-Amanda from Seattle


Re: [LbNA] NH Beaver Brook

From: Jena Marie Paolilli (jena@bluejena.net) | Date: 2003-08-30 09:40:16 UTC-04:00
Wait, Jocelyn and I found the Beaver Brook boxes just a couple weeks ago!
----- Original Message -----
From: DSNFEET@aol.com
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] NH Beaver Brook


Hi Mike
I have spoken to the Beaver Brook director about adopting or replacing both
boxes. They are giving "time" for the owners to step forward. The locations
need to be modified for their approval. Not my boxes so I cannot modify the
clues-- A problem??
I plan to place a new box there shortly, provided the location is first
approved by the director.
Apparently a large stand of sumac was destroyed by a geocache box placement.
Searchers did not stay on trails--they bushwhacked through. Not nice!
I was in your area earlier this summer--VA Beach. I, too, came up short on my
search due to a missing box not so listed. Frustrating but --the locations
are great to see anyway.
Better luck next time.
Dancing Feet

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Re: [LbNA] NH Beaver Brook

From: Jena Marie Paolilli (jena@bluejena.net) | Date: 2003-08-30 09:42:05 UTC-04:00
Oops. I lied. I meant the Busy Beaver box in Andover. I'm sorry.

-Jena
blue dragonfly
P0 F19 (V8 HH1) X4
E0 C1 A2

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Re: [LbNA] NH Beaver Brook

From: Jocelyn (fleurchild@yahoo.com) | Date: 2003-08-30 14:36:28 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jena Marie Paolilli"
wrote:
> Wait, Jocelyn and I found the Beaver Brook boxes just a couple
weeks ago!


Silly Jena, those were the busy beavers :)